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Friday, February 22, 2013

North Borneo Standoff Malaysia vs Sultanate of Sulu: Philippines Send 5 naval ships

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A Philippine Navy ship patrols the Sulu Sea near the port of Sulu province southern Philippines/EPA

"Going there with arms is not the way to resolve this. When you brandish arms naturally the other side has only one way to respond to such a challenge,'' Philippines president Benigno Aquino reportedly said in his first public comment on the incident. He urged the gunmen to give up peacefully.

Lahad Datu Standoff: Philippines naval ships in Tawi-Tawi waters to help stabilise situation

LAHAD DATU: Six Philippines naval ships have been deployed to the seas of Sulu and Tawi Tawi to prevent possible spill over from the standoff between Malaysian forces and the self-proclaimed Sulu Sultan's gunmen.

The ships are only conducting patrols within the waters of Tawi Tawi islands, less than half-hour speed boat ride from the seaside village of Tandau where the Sulu group has been holed up since Feb 9.

Philippines navy spokesman Lt Comm Gregory Fabic was quoted as telling the media in Manila that the naval vessels would not dock in Sabah waters but were there to help make the situation stable.

He stated that there were also no instructions given for the evacuation of the Sulu group led Raja Muda Azzimudie Kiram, the brother of Sultan Jamalul Kiram III.

``We are hoping that this will be resolved peacefully. If they are retreating, we are not there to help them because we need instructions if they can be picked up,'' Fabic was quoted as saying.

``If there are conflicts, we cannot help them. We will (only go there) if it is resolved peacefully and are given instructions to repatriate them,'' Fabic added.

The Sulu group of about 100 have insisted on staying put in Tanduo although a Friday deadline for them to be deported is looming.

The Malaysian security forces, who have thrown a tight land and sea cordon around the group, are reportedly in a position to deport the group anytime but are holding back pending efforts to resolve the standoff through negotiations without bloodshed.

Meanwhile, Philippines president Benigno Aquino reportedly said in Manila that the Sulu gunmen, who claimed that North Borneo was part of the Sulu Sultanate, should give up peacefully.

``Going there with arms is not the way to resolve this. When you brandish arms naturally the other side has only one way to respond to such a challenge,'' Aquino was quoted as saying in his first public comment on the incident.

Aquino also stated that his government had been talking to all parties, including the Sultan's family, to find a peaceful solution.

Philippines Foreign secretary Albert del Rosario stated in a separate statement that Aquino had ordered his government authorities ``to do everything'' possible to try and urge them to peacefully withdraw and to do this as quickly as possible.  (http://bit.ly/139brbN )

The Star Online

27 Responses so far

  1. Anonymous says:

    Maniwala kaya kayo na hindi tutulong ang Navy natin na andun? Kung e massacre na ng malaysia ang Principe ng Sultanate of Sulu sa tingin nyo panunuurin lang ng ating mga Sundalo?

    Kung e masacre na ng Malaysia ang mga Tausug sa tingin nyo ang libo-libong mga tausug sa Malaysia ay hindi magaggalit at mag initiate ng civil war?

    Tingnan natin kasi now raw ang dealine..

    Gusto ng malaysia itigil na raw nila ang pag rent ng yearly sa Sulu which means e ignore nalang nila at tatanggapin ang gulo na gagawin ng mga tausug.

    Muslim versus muslim na ngayon.. kadugo vs kadugo. Tausug ang Malaysians are family pero dahil sa $70 Billion Dollars na kikitain ng Malaysia sa North Borneo hindi nila e give up yan

    kaya expect the worst...

  2. Anonymous says:

    Pero at least alam na ng Mundo ang totoo na hindi sa Malaysia ang North Borneo.

    Tinanggal na rin ng Google map ang label na Malaysia sa North Borneo...

    Ang label na Malaysia ay hanggang Sarawak nalang doon sa Eastern Borneo.

    Hindi man mag tagumpay ang Sultanate ngayon at least alam na ng mundo na desidido itong Sultanate of Sulu na mabuhay muli

  3. Anonymous says:

    It is painful to be rejected specially if your own president will disown you. The Sultanate of Sulu in Lahad Datu are raising the Philippine Flag now not the Sultanate of Sulu Flag which means they are there for the honor of the Philippines not for their Sultanate..

  4. Anonymous says:

    Your right dude! (tears)

  5. Ang sinabi ng gobyerno ng Pilipinas ay daanin sa negosasyon at hindi sa pamamagitan ng armas. Walang sinabi na give up na ang claim sa Sabah. madami dito comment ng comment hindi naman naiintindihan ang binabasa. kailangan muna magpalakas ang Pilipinas militar, ekonomiya at diplomasiya bago tayo seryosohin ng mga ibang bansa. Lumalakas na ngayon ang ekonomiya ng Pilipinas kaya nakakabili na ng gamit para sa militar. Susunod lalakas na din nag boses ng Pilipinas sa mundo. Kapag malakas na ang Pilipnas, madali na mababawi ang ninakaw ng mga karatig bansa natin. kailangan gamitin nag utak at hindi puro emosyon, kahit sa gyera gumagamit din ng taktika at hindi lusob ng lusob.

  6. Anonymous says:

    I am a Filipino and I believe if Sabah belongs to the Sultanate of Sulu - Philippines, the Malaysian Government must give Sabah back to its rightful owner(s).

    I am not for war but Malaysia must respect the decision of the owner(s) of Sabah. I thought Malaysia leaders are ok. The Malaysian leaders must come to the Philippines and talk to the Sultanate of Sulu.

    Nagtataka nga ako bakit kailangan ng Malaysia to intervene for the peaceful resolution of peace in some parts in Mindanao - iyon pala hindi ayos ang pakikitungo nila sa Sultanate of Sulu, kaya may gulo sa ilan parts sa Mindanao.

    Si President Aquino kailangan tulungan niya ang Sultanate of Sulu. Aba protectahan ninyo naman ang mga Pilipino. Palagi na lang ba tayong dehado sa labas at loob ng bansa natin.

  7. Anonymous says:

    matitiis ba ng ating bansa na e masacre ang mga kababayan natin?

    Sa panahon ni Marcos anong masacre yun an related sa planned infiltration of North Borneo?

    Sinong gumawa ng masacre na yon?

    Huwag lang maulit ang masacre na yon. Bawat buhay ng Tausug ay mahalaga sa kanila. Kung ayaw ng Malaysia ng Gulo, mag ingat sila sa pag patay ni isang buhay ng tausug. Alam ko ano ang ugali ng mga yan.. Pag namatayan ang mga yan.. mag manggahat na naman yan at hindi matatapos ang gulo at manahin nila mula sa kanilang mga ninuno hanggang sa kanilang mga ka apu-apohan...

    Ingat lang sila.

    Sinasugest na rin ng Chinese Malaysian Business council na itigil na nila ang pagbabayad ng renta sa Sulu. gagamitin nalang daw nila ang North Borneo ng Libre para wala na daw claim ang Sulu na nag rent pa sila sa teritoryo nito...

    Tingnan natin yang mga Chinese Malaysian business men na yan kung gaano sila ka tagal mag exist sa Sabah kung ganyan pakikitungo nila sa mga tausug

  8. MAKABAYANGPINOY says:

    hindi igini-give up ng pnoy govt ang sabah idadaan sa peaceful negotiation. deplomatic approach para sa kapayapaan ng malaysia at ng pilipinas. IDADAAN SA DEPLOMASYA ANG PAGKE-CLAIM NG SABAH NG PILIPINAS. ANG GUSTO NG PNOY GOVT. WAG IDAAN SA MADUGONG KAHARASAN ANG PAGKE-CLAIM NG SABAH. MASYADO ANG IBA DITO MARAHAS. MATUTUTO NA TAYO SA MGA NAGDAANG WORLD WARS. ANDYAN ANG U.N. PARA PAG-USAPAN ANG MGA BAGAY NA YAN.

  9. Anonymous says:

    @rebel hunter:

    You are wrong.. Sultanate of Sulu is right.

    Paano mo ba naman mabawi ng bigla kung wala man lang history ang previous move na may nasimulan ka na?

    Kahit di man makuha ng Sultanate ng Sulu , at least alam na ng Sabah na sila pala ay pagmamay-ari ng Sulu bagay na itinago ng Malaysia at Pilipinas.

    Sa insidente nga lang na ito ko nalalaman na bahagi pala ng Pilipinas ang Sabah. Kung wlang move na ganito.. maraming walang alam na ganon pala.

    Magsisisi rin si PNOY kung mag backout ang Sultanate of Sulu kasi, once lalabas ang mga member nito hindi na sila makabalik ng Sabah at Hindi na rin mag bigay ng chance ang Malaysia para hayaang yayaman ang pilipinas kasi alam na nito na may balak palang bawiin ang sabah.

    Ito ang first and last chance para sa Sultanate.. wala ng bukas

  10. Anonymous says:

    Sigurado bata kapa kaya ngayon mo Lang nalaman na north Borneo is part of the Philippines 1987 nababasa yan SA student digest bininigay sa mga elementary students kung dapat bang bawiin na ang sabah ng Pilipinas? Lumamig Lang ang claim dahil SA dami ng kaguluhan internal problems na dapat unahin kaya na stock ang claim ng bansa but it doesn't mean Hindi na yan hahabulin ng Pilipinas maari totally peaceful na ang ating bansa then next external problem na tutukan ng ating pamahalaan.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Kailangan bawiin na yan by peaceful means or by force.

  12. Anonymous says:


    di mababawi yan walang bayag pinas eh.

  13. Anonymous says:

    This is difficult for us for having 2 fronts. China and Malaysia.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Filipinos in Saudi Arabia expressing our desire from Philippine government to help the Filipino heirs of Sabah to claim the ancestral lands. In our history, the maps are including Borneo as part of Philippines even in the books of our Elementary, Borneo and Sabah is Philippines..

    We are calling the Philippine government to help the Filipino American heirs of Sabah beacause this is ours...There should be no blood there..But if blodshed comes, the MNLF and the Moros could go there and help their brothers..So the Phil govet should not leave them for their fight, and should insit Philippine ownership...

    Fight for what is ours..Disregards Malaysian claim because they are illegal.This time we need our government to enforce Filipino claim on said Philippine Sabah province..

    Good luck..pls help

  15. Anonymous says:

    Dont be afraid to enforce Philippine sovereignty of Sabah because Sabah and Borneo is Philippine territories.......

    That is the truth..

  16. Anonymous says:

    Please dont leave the Filipinos in Sabah...
    Send more Filipinos there and claim our land...

  17. Anonymous says:

    Sabah is Philippines, mga katutubong Pilipinong Tausug ang naninirahan at nagmamay-ari, mamamayan sila ng Pilipinas. Bilangt mga dayuhang naging Pilipino at mga half breed Pilipino, alalahanin natin na tayo ang nakisalo sa yaman ng mga "tumandok" mapagmahal tayo dapat sa mga katutubo at di natin sila ipahamak o pabayaan man.

  18. Anonymous says:

    mali po ang sinabi ng presidente sa inyong claim sa Sabah..pero kung disguise po yan..maganda po..bale ung mga sundlo ay magdishuise na mag peace and order pero dapat ang gawin po ay to make control dun sa lugar..being part of the Philippines, we have to implement taxation and we need to tax the area as well as the rentals, we need to implement tax on rentals on the area...kelangan andun ang Filipino police and enforcements para maimplement ang Philippine rules....

    To give up is no way!!! para kng pinakita mo ang pagkatakot mo s kanila, samantalang sa atin nmn tlga..bakit ka natatakot...isang kang duwag...

    kung hindi maipmplement ng Pilippine government ang the power to tax sa area na yan, ibig sabihin madaming tao or Filipino sa buong bansa Pinas man or abroad, will not pay tax to the government..

    THis should be a challenge to the Philippine administration..dapat implement nio ang power to tax, tapos implement ang batas Pilipinas or batas militar sa lugar kung kinakailangan para macontrol yan ng bansa at hndi ung umuupa..

    Alam ng lahat na umuupa lang ang MAlaysia sa Sabah..so we need to get them away now, kc who is the legitimate owner, di ba Filipino?

  19. Anonymous says:

    taasan ang rentals tapos lagyan ng tax yan para andun ang Phil government para maglagay ng control...hindi pwedeng hindi mo sila pakialaman..Asaan ang gobyerno, bakit tumatalikod ang presidente...dapat harapin mo yan at ipakita mo na ang Pinas ay matatag at di natitiniag sa pagclaim sa Sabah..kelangan ipakita na sa atin ito...msend ships there and police to get control of the area....ganyan tlga, magkakaroon ng di pagkakaunawaan pero kelangan mo ipakita na ikaw ang may ari dun at hindi natatakot...you hve to implement it whether he like it or not...

    The world know about it....Sabah is a Phlippine territories....So go on..Dont surrender...kelangan pagtibayin ang claim at tulungan ang Sultan of Sulu and the heirs but give a condition that is subject to tax

  20. Anonymous says:

    JAMALUL D. KIRAM, HIS BROTHER ESMAIL D. KIRAM & MUEDZUL-LAIL T. KIRAM:

    These 3 proclaimed themselves sultan but on scrutiny they failed the rigid test and requirement to be Sultan. Let us talk about them to see who is the real Sultan. I selected these 3 because they are only the 3 (being Kiram) to emphasize that only the son of the Royal Kiram Sultan has rights to be Sultan of Sulu. All the others claiming to be Sultan are either mentally deranged or paid to usurp the title and position of Sultan; they have no right to be Sultan.

    Note: Jamalul and Esmail are definitely not the Sultan because you could not have 2 brothers to be Sultans or Kings in one sultanate. Not at the same time. This is their first biggest mistake and biggest act of deception.

    PRIMOGENITURE IS THE LAW OF ROYALTY TO BE KING OR SULTAN BEING BY

    WHEN WE USE THIS LAW OF PRIMOGENITURE WE ELIMINATE ALL THE FAKE SULTANS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALL SONS OF THE SULTAN:

    Jamalul D. Kiram (who run for senator but lost) and his brother Esmail D. Kiram (he run for Sulu provincial board member but also lost) and note these 2 brothers proclaimed themselves sultan at same time but do they have rights? I say none. Why? Answer their father was not the Sultan, so not being sons of the Sultan, Jamalul and Esmail could not be Sultan, but they have ranks of Datu but NO right to be Sultan.

    Their father was “Datu Punjungan” the “Half-Brother” of Sultan Muhammad Esmail E. Kiram I.

    Being “Half-Nephews” -- Jamalul D. Kiram and Esmail D. Kiram have no rights to be Sultan. They are not sons of Sultan Muhammad Esmail E. Kiram I.

    SULTAN FUAD A. KIRAM I IS THE LAST SON OF SULTAN MUHAMMAD ESMAIL E. KIRAM I, SULTAN 1947-1973:

    So Sultan Fuad A. Kiram I based on the Law of Primogeniture and Royalty by birth right being the last son of the Sultan Muhammad Esmail E. Kiram I, is the Sultan of Sulu & Sabah.

    There Is Another Strict Law Of Royalty In Sulu: That the son of the Sultan must not be Haram or must not commit any act regarded as Haram as this is a disqualification to be Sultan:

    MUEDZUL-LAIL T. KIRAM WAS DECLARED HARAM:

    Being declared “Haram,” Muedzul-Lail T. Kiram was disqualified to claim and to be Sultan. Muedzul-Lail T. Kiram committed gross violations of this Law considered sins against Islam and the norm of civilized society two times that led to his disqualification.

    His Haram acts were: He sexually assaulted a female teacher by grabbing her private genitalia (vagina) in front of many people that led to his expulsion at his college – and secondly 2 years ago he assaulted a young boy of seven (7), as he pointed a home-made shotgun at the boy, he allowed his wife to slap the boy many times. Thus his Haram acts disqualified him.

    The Sultan of Sulu is the Head of Islam and no one guilty of acts of Haram can be Sultan.

    RUNNING FOR POLITICAL OFFICE IS ANOTHER DISQUALIFICATION OF ANY CLAIMANT TO BE SULTAN:

    The Sultan, King, Queen or Monarch is above politics. True Sultan should not be involved in politics because politics and aspiring for any political office divide people. In Sulu as stated by Ustadz Abdul Baki (Islamic Mufti of Region 9 of the Philippines) Jamalul D. Kiram, Esmail D. Kiram and Muedzul-lail T. Kiram were disqualified to be Sultan the minute they run for political office.

    Jamalul D. Kiram run for senator in 2007 who lost disappointingly;

    Esmail D. Kiram run for Sulu provincial board member in 1992 who lost greatly as the people of Sulu he wished to represent rejected him. Imagine someone claiming to be sultan but rejected by his own people;

    Lastly Muedzul-Lail T. Kiram run for the "lowest position" of barangay kagawad (village councilor) in 2007 in his home village of San Raymundo, Jolo, Sulu, but his relatives did not vote for him and he also lost massively. Again Muedzul-lail T. Kiram claiming to be sultan but being Haram was rejected by his own people in his village.

    Based On The Law Of Primogeniture Of Father To Son Sultan Fuad A. Kiram I Is The One And Only Sultan Of Sulu And Sabah.

  21. Anonymous says:


    Anonymous says:
    February 24, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    SABAH IS AN ISSUE BETWEEN LESSOR LANDLORD.
    (THE SULTAN OF SULU).
    AND ILLEGAL TENANT (MALAYSIA).

    Sabah or North Borneo and the island of Palawan including Spratly islands were bestowed as gifts eternal to the Sultan of Sulu by the Sultan of Brunei in 1658 in gratitude for the military assistance of the Sultan of Sulu to avert a civil war in Borneo. Thus, since that time, Sabah became a property of the Sultan of Sulu and the Sultanate of Sulu. Sabah's problem is that illegal Tenant Squatter (Malaysia) squatted on the property and sovereign patrimony of the Sultan of Sulu the original Owner of Sabah since 1658 to this day.

    In 1878, HM Sultan Jamalul Ahlam Kiram (The Sultan of Sulu & The Sultan of Sabah), as the legitimate owner, leased Sabah to a British company of Gustavus Baron de Overbeck and Alfred Dent for their use and their heirs for an amount of 5,000 Mexican dollars or 5,000 pieces of 8 in gold per year (which is equivalent to over US$20 million today per year) but this Perpetual Lease prohibits the transfer of Sabah to any nation, company or individual without the consent of His Majesty's Government (“Government of the Sultan of Sulu”). The transfer of Sabah by Great Britain to Malaysia in 1963 constituted a “breach” of the provisions of the 1878 Lease as the Government of the Sultan of Sulu did not consent to the transfer to Malaysia. As a point in law, Sabah must and should be returned to the Lessor or owners; i.e., the Sultan of Sulu and the Sultanate of Sulu.

    ”Perpetual Lease” means that the lease or rental agreement was not eternal but it was only “perpetual” or continuous to the original lessees or renters for as long as the Original Lessees were alive but de Overbeck and the 2 Dent Brothers were long dead so this Perpetual Lease no longer existed thus Sabah should revert and should be returned to the Sultan of Sulu as Lessor Landlord Owner and should NOT be illegally occupied by Malaysia.

    In 1906 and 1920, the United States formally reminded Great Britain that Sabah did not belong to Great Britain and was still part of the Sultanate of Sulu but Great Britain ignored the USA and did not listen to the reminder of the USA and transferred Sabah illegally to Malaysia in 1962. This transfer is prohibited under the Sabah Lease of 1878, thus it is illegal.

    The continued occupation of Sabah by Malaysia is illegal and it must end. Malaysia pays the heirs of the Sultan of Sulu very small annual rent of Php77,442.36 or US$1,500 for Sabah a real estate property with land area of 73,711 square kilometers. This very small yearly rent is unjust and unfair, and it is unacceptable and indefensible how Malaysia can illegally stay in Sabah by paying so little amount of rent per year.

    Due to the theft and rape of Sabah resources and riches by Malaysia, regarded as Un-Islamic and Haram that caused the lack of economic developments in the Sultanate of Sulu and also in Sabah many pro independence groups advocate independence of Sulu and Sabah. Malaysia is “Haram” Muslim nation that grabs Sabah the land owned by Muslims from the Sultanate of Sulu. Malaysia's land-grabbing of Sabah is betrayal of Islam - - and regarded as “theft” of Sabah by Malaysia against the Tausugs, the Filipinos and against the norms of civilized society!

    The Sultan of Sulu and The Sultan of Sabah His Majesty Sultan Muhammad Fuad A. Kiram I (current Owner Lessor Landlord) expounds that if Malaysia wants to stay in Sabah, then Malaysia must pay the correct and proper amount of rent of US$6 Billion to US$7.2 Billion per year. If the rental payment is not acceptable, he proposes “Joint Administration” between the Sultan of Sulu and Sultan of Sabah and Malaysia to administer Sabah and all incomes are split co-equally, similar to the joint administration or “Condominium of France and Great Britain in Vanuatu” prior to Vanuatu's independence...

  22. Anonymous says:

    Wow...i learn something new...talaga palang walang hiya itong malaysia...thanks for sharing this information..

  23. Anonymous says:

    The comment is incomplete and not supported by evidence..

    Do not confused the people...

    As long as there is no evidence that the Reigning Sultan is haram then they would be remained as Sultan.

    Accusation without evidence is not acceptable in the educated society.

    Still remain the recognized Sultan who ordered the prince to Claim North Borneo is the real crowned Prince who have the will and braveness to defend the territory;

    If you cold suffice any evidence that the Sultan is haram, then post it

  24. Anonymous says:

    Malaysia cannot afford to go to war againts battle tested MNLF

  25. Anonymous says:

    Kunwari lang ni Pnoy yun , pero sa looblobin nyon sige Sultan tirahin nyo na, trayduran lang pareho ng ginawa nila sa atin

  26. Anonymous says:

    WACTH YOUR BLOG>>> FORM MALAYSIA

  27. Anonymous says:

    Sa totoo lang dipa rin natin kaya ang malasyia... mahirap ilaban ang tora tora sa jet fighter nila....

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